Kail Lowry may share a lot of her life on social media and on her many podcasts, but the former Teen Mom 2 star ensures that others aren’t also sharing her business by requiring the people in her life to sign non-disclosure agreements (NDAs).
On the latest episode of Catelynn Lowell and Tyler Baltierra’s Cate & Ty Break It Down podcast, Kail revealed to the Teen Mom couple that, after dealing with (many, many) friendship falling outs in the past, she believes it’s necessary to have any potential pals sign an NDA.
“ … I just feel like you don’t know until s**t hits the fan,” Kail said on the podcast.
While the mom of seven admits that she “definitely had a hand” in some of these falling outs, she believes it’s “next level” for the situations to go public, claiming that her “personal life is [her] business.”
“If you f**k with my business, my life, my personal life, you’re affecting the way I’m able to provide for my children,” she explained.
Kail confirmed that Becky Hayter– her formerly estranged friend and current co-host of her Karma & Chaos podcast– is an exception to her NDA rule, despite the two feuding and not speaking for years. According to Kail, while her and Becky’s friendship falling out was widely known about, Becky never spoke about the feud publicly.
“Anyone that has publicly said something about me, you are dead to me and I will never look back,” Kail said. “The fact that Becky never went public about it, I feel like we can grow and we can progress and we can rekindle. But if you’ve said anything publicly about me and/or our falling out, I will never speak to you again.”
“ … I think it speaks to somebody’s soul and their authenticity and who they are as a person,” she added.
Kail apparently started requiring her friends to legalize their silence around 2021, when her long-time friendship with Mark Allen broke up and he began speaking about their fall-out on social media. That same year, her (now former) friend and podcast co-host Vee Torres confirmed she had signed an NDA at Kail’s request, as did Kail’s ex-husband Javi Marroquin.
“Most people would take it… like they would be very offended, and I honestly when I saw the email I was just cracking up,” Vee— who at the time was still friends with Kail— said during a June 2021 episode of their podcast. “… I knew it was coming because we’ve talked about it, and I was literally saying the same thing… I was like, ‘I think I’m going to start doing NDAs with people I work with closely.'”
Back in September, the former MTV star told People that she’s made an effort in recent years to hold herself back from spilling details about her personal life to friends, as she has a fear of being “sold out” by those she trusts.
“ … I really do pick and choose what I share with people, whether it be friends on a personal level or the podcasts or anything like that,” she explained. “At the end of the day, I don’t know what the support system will look like tomorrow. I don’t know if people are going to sell me out to make a quick buck. I truly don’t know.”
Kail also spoke about the topic during an April episode of her (former) podcast Baby Mamas No Drama, revealing that she worries “every single day” that someone from her past may “creep up” on her. Kail claimed that “friendship fallouts” and “situations with people that were once close to me or once worked for me” had left her fearful that something private will be exposed.
(Fans heavily speculated that Kail was indirectly speaking about the fallout she had with her longtime friend and nanny, Natalie, but Kail never confirmed or denied the speculation.)
“And so I’m waiting for the other shoe to drop,” she said at the time.
“ … Like, one person specifically said, like, ‘I can’t wait to expose you. Like, this is, I’m gonna expose you. Just wait, it’s coming.’ … Every single day I wake up and I’m like, is today the day that it’s gonna fall apart?”
Kail also revealed on her podcast last year that the first thing she does when she wakes up is “check the Internet” to see if she’s been “exposed,” noting that she doesn’t know what she has said or done that “could ruin my life.”
